A lot of British players have been at Olympique (before 1914) and FC Sète (1914-39) before the Second World War.
Here is the "almost complete" list of the players.
And I have to send to the publisher the Club history by the 20th of July...
Balmforth, George William(ENG)
01.09.1901(Denaby) (†)September 1995 in Portsmouth
Full Back
Wombwell (?)
March 1928 Sheffield Wednesday
July 1929 Reading 10/0
August 1932 Oswestry Town
1932-33 FC Sète (9/0)
July 1933 Oswestry Town
Sheffield Wednesday
July 1935 Oswestry Town
Barrett, William Frederick (ENG)
17.01.1904(Poplar – London) (†) ?
Tower Hamlets, Fulham
1926-29 FC Sète,
1929-33 Olympique Lillois
1933-35 RC Roubaix
Burnett, ??? (ENG)
Half or Goalkeeper
1919-21 FC Sète
Butler, (ENG)
Goalkeeper
Plumstead ?
1912 RCD Español Barcelona
1912-14 Olympique Cettois
1919-23 FC Sète
CONDELL,
DF
1919-21 FC Sète
Cornelius, William Henry(ENG)
23.12.1897 (Belvedere) - (†) ?
1920-21 Erith & Belvedere
1921-24 FC Sète
1924-31 Ol. Alès
1931-33 FC Grasse
DOUGALL, Peter G. (SCO)
21.03.1909 (Denny - Stirlingshire) (†) 16.06.1974
Inside Forward
Ex Clyde to 1929
1929-32 Southampton
1932-33 FC Sète 16/6
1933-37 Arsenal 21/4 (he missed completly the 36-37 season due to an injury)
1937-38 Everton 11/2
Then ???
9/12/1947 Is indicated in the FA Bulletin as Coaching in Holland Amsterdamsche FC...
He was described in the Press as "in Alex James Class", brother of Manager Bill Dougall
E - Z follow tomorrow
Thanks in advance
BRITISH PLAYERS AT FC SETE
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George Balmforth
1930-31 Reading 8-0
1931-32 Reading 1-0
Peter Dougal ( Usually 1 L)
1927-28 Burnley 6-2 (Signed: November 1926 from Denny Pace Released: Clyde February 1929
1928-29 Clyde ?/?
1929-30 Southampton 12-1 (signed in September)
1930-31 Southampton 14-4
1931-32 Southampton 3-0
1933-34 Arsenal 5-0
1934-35 Arsenal 8-1
1935-36 Arsenal 8-3
1936-37 Arsenal 0
1937-38 Everton 11-2
1938-39 Bury 16-2
1939-43 Bury ( I have the stats but should we add them?) no appearances in the abandoned 1939-40 season
Manchester United also during WW II but no matches in the first team I think
1930-31 Reading 8-0
1931-32 Reading 1-0
Peter Dougal ( Usually 1 L)
1927-28 Burnley 6-2 (Signed: November 1926 from Denny Pace Released: Clyde February 1929
1928-29 Clyde ?/?
1929-30 Southampton 12-1 (signed in September)
1930-31 Southampton 14-4
1931-32 Southampton 3-0
1933-34 Arsenal 5-0
1934-35 Arsenal 8-1
1935-36 Arsenal 8-3
1936-37 Arsenal 0
1937-38 Everton 11-2
1938-39 Bury 16-2
1939-43 Bury ( I have the stats but should we add them?) no appearances in the abandoned 1939-40 season
Manchester United also during WW II but no matches in the first team I think
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Many Thanks Jeroen
Should we insert at least Balmforth and Dougal in the DB ?
Other British Players at Sète
R. E. EDWARDS
Centre Half
Born ???
1930-32 FC Sochaux (FRA)
1932-33 FC Sète (11/0)
1933-34 Amiens (d2) ?/?
1934-35 Amiens (d2) 0/0
Goes to Briggs Motor Bodies Dec. 1935
EVANS, ???
Half
Born ???
1919-21 FC Sète
FAHEY,
Centre Half
Born ???
1920-21 FC Sète
GIBSON, Victor
Born 1882 (allegidly)
The club founder - A Celtic fan (that's the reason why the club has the same colours as Celtic)
Plumstead FC
Español Barcelona 1912 (There is a team photograph in the centenary book with him in 1912)
1912-14 Olympique Cettois
1914-24 FC Sète Player Manager
1924-25 FC Sète Manager
1926-27 Manager at the same time at Montpellier and Marseille ... Both in the top southern Division
1927-29 Ol. Marseille Manager
1929-33 FC Sochaux Manager
1933-35 Bordeaux Bastidienne Manager
1935-36 Not sure if he is at Grasse
Then his traces are completly lost in France... even he was probably the most famous manager at the time
Appeared in a Cup final (1924) at the age of 42 (certains journalists write that he was already 47)
GUNN, Alfred H.
Born in Germany11.07.1924
Centre Forward
1947-48 Sète 7/2
1948-49 Sète 4/1
HARRISON, David William
Half back
Born ???
1923-29 FC Sète
1929-31 Ol. Marseille
1931 Went as player Coach to Tunesia
HENDERSON,
Half
1919-21 FC Sète
HEWITT, William (Bill)
Half, Full Back
Born ???
1923-26 FC Sète
1926-34 RC Roubaix
3 Times French Cup Finalist 1924, 1932, 1933
HILLIER, Joe (Joseph)
Born ?/12/1907 (not completly sure from my sources local French Press is often wrong) in ???
Left Back or Centre Half
???
1931-33 FC Sochaux
1933-36 FC Sète
1936-39 Ol. Dunkerque
Apparently died 1943 or 1944 in the Italian Campaign with the British Troops (Monte Cassino?)
That's what a former team mate of him (René Llense) remembers
LEGGETT, ?
Inside Forward
1919-20
M... Z follows
Should we insert at least Balmforth and Dougal in the DB ?
Other British Players at Sète
R. E. EDWARDS
Centre Half
Born ???
1930-32 FC Sochaux (FRA)
1932-33 FC Sète (11/0)
1933-34 Amiens (d2) ?/?
1934-35 Amiens (d2) 0/0
Goes to Briggs Motor Bodies Dec. 1935
EVANS, ???
Half
Born ???
1919-21 FC Sète
FAHEY,
Centre Half
Born ???
1920-21 FC Sète
GIBSON, Victor
Born 1882 (allegidly)
The club founder - A Celtic fan (that's the reason why the club has the same colours as Celtic)
Plumstead FC
Español Barcelona 1912 (There is a team photograph in the centenary book with him in 1912)
1912-14 Olympique Cettois
1914-24 FC Sète Player Manager
1924-25 FC Sète Manager
1926-27 Manager at the same time at Montpellier and Marseille ... Both in the top southern Division
1927-29 Ol. Marseille Manager
1929-33 FC Sochaux Manager
1933-35 Bordeaux Bastidienne Manager
1935-36 Not sure if he is at Grasse
Then his traces are completly lost in France... even he was probably the most famous manager at the time
Appeared in a Cup final (1924) at the age of 42 (certains journalists write that he was already 47)
GUNN, Alfred H.
Born in Germany11.07.1924
Centre Forward
1947-48 Sète 7/2
1948-49 Sète 4/1
HARRISON, David William
Half back
Born ???
1923-29 FC Sète
1929-31 Ol. Marseille
1931 Went as player Coach to Tunesia
HENDERSON,
Half
1919-21 FC Sète
HEWITT, William (Bill)
Half, Full Back
Born ???
1923-26 FC Sète
1926-34 RC Roubaix
3 Times French Cup Finalist 1924, 1932, 1933
HILLIER, Joe (Joseph)
Born ?/12/1907 (not completly sure from my sources local French Press is often wrong) in ???
Left Back or Centre Half
???
1931-33 FC Sochaux
1933-36 FC Sète
1936-39 Ol. Dunkerque
Apparently died 1943 or 1944 in the Italian Campaign with the British Troops (Monte Cassino?)
That's what a former team mate of him (René Llense) remembers
LEGGETT, ?
Inside Forward
1919-20
M... Z follows
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You can add Balmforth and Dougal if you want
Alf Gunn died 1982
1946-47 Nottingham Forest 2-0
I'll look for the others this evening, If Victor Gibson ever played a match in the Scottish first division before 1915 I should be able to find him.
I've sent AFC an e-mail Maybe they know more about Peter Dougal. It's a very respectable amateurclub, they never joined the professional league
Alf Gunn died 1982
1946-47 Nottingham Forest 2-0
I'll look for the others this evening, If Victor Gibson ever played a match in the Scottish first division before 1915 I should be able to find him.
I've sent AFC an e-mail Maybe they know more about Peter Dougal. It's a very respectable amateurclub, they never joined the professional league
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I couldn't find a Victor Gibson in the Scottish first division 1900-1910. I don't have a first name of 10% of the players
"unknown" Gibsons:
1909-1910 Morton: Gibson 24-0
1908-1909 Falkirk :Gibson 24-0
1907-1908 Falkirk :Gibson 31-0
1906-1907 Morton : Gibson 3-0 (Could be Tommy )
No "unknown" Gibsons between 1900-1906
I found nothing about the other players. Henderson is a very common name.
one possible:
Sidney Leggett Inside- Right born in Clapton 1897
1913-14 Fulham 0
signed 1919 from the army
1920-21 Clapton Orient 1-0
Tunbridge Wells
"unknown" Gibsons:
1909-1910 Morton: Gibson 24-0
1908-1909 Falkirk :Gibson 24-0
1907-1908 Falkirk :Gibson 31-0
1906-1907 Morton : Gibson 3-0 (Could be Tommy )
No "unknown" Gibsons between 1900-1906
I found nothing about the other players. Henderson is a very common name.
one possible:
Sidney Leggett Inside- Right born in Clapton 1897
1913-14 Fulham 0
signed 1919 from the army
1920-21 Clapton Orient 1-0
Tunbridge Wells
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Dougal did play first team football for Manchester United during WO II as a guest player
Manchester United 1939-40 1-0 (Regional League Western Division)
Manchester United 1941-42 1-0 (FL Northern Section - Second Championship)
Manchester United 1939-40 1-0 (Regional League Western Division)
Manchester United 1941-42 1-0 (FL Northern Section - Second Championship)
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Dougall:
Add Burnley (6 matches, 2 goals) before Clyde
Add Chesterfield (1 month trial) August 1933
Add Bury (16 matches, 2 goals) after Everton.
Hillier:
died 12.7.43. See his Commonwealth War Graves Commission entry [url="http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=2068195"]here[/url]
Add Burnley (6 matches, 2 goals) before Clyde
Add Chesterfield (1 month trial) August 1933
Add Bury (16 matches, 2 goals) after Everton.
Hillier:
died 12.7.43. See his Commonwealth War Graves Commission entry [url="http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=2068195"]here[/url]
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Chesterfield Historian wrote:Hillier:
died 12.7.43. See his Commonwealth War Graves Commission entry [url="http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=2068195"]here[/url]
Many thanks, his [url="http://www.playerhistory.com/Default.aspx?page=player_details&playerID=152820"]entry[/url] is updated.
Any idea of his British career before 1930 when he came to Sochaux?
And of his place of Birth?
That's great and Llense, his teammate in Sète (now 95!), was right telling me that he died in the Italian Campaign, then.
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bukovi wrote:Any idea of his British career before 1930 when he came to Sochaux?
And of his place of Birth?
I've seen "Denny, Lanarkshire, Scotland" for a place of birth, and "Denny Pace" for a first club, but I reckon the club should be "Dunipace," which is a Scottish junior side based in the Denny area. After that I see him going to Burnley, then Clyde, then Southampton.
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