Player team Egypt - World Cup in 1934

[Sergey]

Wrote you a man from Russia. English I know is bad. Excuse me, I hope you'll understand.
I want to clarify one issue. On the Egyptian team player who played the World Cup in 1934.
I do not see full information from your pages (Subscribers only)
I will write about what it is. Page on the player.

http://www.playerhistory.com/Default.as ... rID=112828
Mohammed Hassan – full spelling of a player Mohammed Helmy Hassan
Played 1 game in the World Cup in 1934.
I do not know what date of birth is written on your site
but in all other European sites at the player's site to write date of birth - 13 February 1912
player club - al-Masry.

And now look at all the Arab websites, now there are translators pages
http://translate.google.com/?hl=en&tab=fT#ar|en|
Can understand what is written in the Arabic Wikipedia and Arab sites. So page on Wikipedia
http://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8% ... 9%85%D9%8A
+ page http://www.aralg.com/vb/showthread.php?t=108801

on the page of this player's identity is much more known and famous,
which is also spelled Mohammed Helmy Hassan and which is the same date of birth 13 February 1912
The articles are no words about what he played in the World Cup in 1934.
In the biography of a player, says that the first time in Egypt's national team played at the Olympics in 1936.
Team player Zamalek.
See also the other English-language page about this player http://www.sis.gov.eg/vr/figures/english/html/15.htm

I asked this question on Wikipedia, get an answer, but it requires additions
Have a look at the lower two questions on the page

Copy the full address hyperlink, type in your query and see the desired text

http://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9% ... 9.85.D9.8A

If you look at all the links, you will realize that the two players, first who played the World Cup 1934, second who played at the Olympics in 1936, it is two different people.
But while both players are equal spelling Mohammed Helmy Hassan and both players have the same birth date.
Probably not properly write the Europeans
In the World Cup in 1934 played a player Mohammed Hassan.
Who first wrote the player Mohammed Hassan word Helmy - unknown.
Who first wrote the player Mohammed Hassan date of birth of another player, the same unknown
As we now distinguish between these two players have the same unknown.

[keith]

Hi Sergey

I will look into your comments during the next week and report back to you. If any amendments are required then I will make them. I would like to mention that sometimes Wikpedia is not too reliable. His date of birth is shown as 13.02.1912

[Sergey]

The fact that we need a player who in World Cup 1934 played team in Egypt as a representative of the club al-Masry.
A player whose spelling Mohammed Helmy Hassan his entire football career playing at the club Zamalek.
Biography player Mohammed Helmy Hassan is written in many Arab websites:

http://www.airssforum.com/f1315/t94540.html

http://www.zamalek-sc.com/forum/showthr ... 2%E3%C7%E4

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Mohamed-H ... 174?v=info

maybe all copied from a single source of information
but nowhere in all Arab pages do not contain words that the player has played in the World Cup in 1934.
Have a look at the English pages
http://www.esforums.com/index.php?showtopic=25268
http://footballdatabase.eu/football.jou ... 07.en.html

[Sergey]

Here is a player who has played in World Cup in 1934
Mohamed Hassan
http://footballdatabase.eu/football.jou ... 44.en.html

[keith]

Have now amended the Mohamed Hassan (of Al-Masry) who played for Egypt in the 1934 World Cup (date of birth not known) and added Mohammed Helmy Hassan of Zamalek (DoB - 13.02.1912) who played for Egypt in the 1936 Olympic Games. Hope these are now both correct.

[Sergey]

Keith - thanks for the correction.
We have learned information about the two players
Now I ask you, about the same players, two simple questions, depending on your answers, I'll ask other questions.
You can, no answer in detail, I know the essence of all the problems, I understand.

Mohamed Hassan
http://www.playerhistory.com/Default.as ... rID=112828
Written now
National team career: - Matches = 2 games.
One game in World Cup 1934
Another (second game), just write - game in which the player played which either tournament,
or friendly international games.

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Mohammed Helmy Hassan
http://www.playerhistory.com/Default.as ... rID=307128
Written now
Country Egypt - team OG – Matches – (dash) (Total Matches = 0 )
Just answer the question, now, nothing is written and is "0" in the place of games.
Lack of records - explain reason:
lack of information, write later, or is there some others doubt.

[keith]

Mohamed Hassan - I do not know any details of the other international he played in. I entered two A games because that is what one of the other sources showed. It would only show up in PH underneath the WC appearance if the match details had been entered. We have not gone back that far in entering details of friendly internationals even if we knew their line-ups.

Mohammed Helmy Hassan - If he only played one Olympic match thern I will amend accordingly. I entered -/- because it is unknown as yet.

As more details are found about these players, or any players in PH, then the further details will be added

Hope this helps

[Sergey]

Keith.
Yesterday I wrote, was convinced that I can prove that the player
Mohamed Hassan not played at the Olympics in 1928
As it is written on some sites, he played in the game, Argentina - Egypt.
http://www.fifa.com/tournaments/archive ... eport.html
http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/stati ... index.html
Today, I can not find weighty arguments to prove that he has not played in this tournament, he was - stand-by players in the Olympic team in 1928. I later time, return to this issue.
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On the player Mohammed Helmy Hassan.
Just some sites written in different ways.
I'm in Wikipedia under the Egyptian team members wrote the main contradiction
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_a ... C2.A0Egypt
It is quite possible and likely for sure, the player Mohammed Helmy Hassan did not play at Olympics 1936
He was part of the team as a stand-by players.
It's like famous people - myth biography - he was a reserve player, it gradually began to be referred to as a player Olympics and gradually reached the point that he became a player in World Cup 1934. From World Cup, we clean it up.

[keith]

Have added an Olympic appearance for Mohamed Hassan based on ther FIFA details. Have left Mohammed Helmy Hassan as it stands for the time being with Olympics -/-

[Sergey]

Of course it is very difficult to prove that either, if we compare the information about the Olympic football tournament in 1928. Yes the same in the official books and websites provide information about the tournament games.
That's a fact, all other protocols Games same and equal,
only with the protocols of games the team Egypt each source of information wrote his own version of the team
book International Olympic Committee http://olympic-museum.de/o-reports/report1928.htm
book IFFHS http://www.sportantiquariat.ch/detailab ... hp?Id=5172 I have books
site FIFA http://www.fifa.com/tournaments/archive ... index.html
and the site of the National Team of Egypt http://www.angelfire.com/ak/EgyptianSpo ... .html#1928
In both books, one can imagine that the team of authors - people who are aware and knowledgeable about what they write,
written that the information given in the official documents.
Obtained for each of these organizations (International Olympic Committee, IFFHS, FIFA) has its own version of the official documents.
Here are 4 sources of information. In some games the team played in Egypt at the Olympics 1928
in each of the 4 sources of information - different. To date, each of these 4 sources of information believed that only their spelling of the team is the most faithful. And while all of these 4 sources of information do not come to a common version of the protocol, and do not establish the truth, all your changes to the site is just one of the options.