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Posted: 05 Feb 2011, 14:55
by alex511
Hello,
Is there anybody who could please help me with the data on the penalty shootout of this qualifying match in UEFA Cup Winners Cup 1995/96? I have the scorers for Katowice but those for Ararat are missing.

Thanks for any help..

Posted: 20 May 2011, 19:04
by Sergey
to what is written here
http://www.linguasport.com/futbol/inter ... 2_96gd.htm
Added information about the players Ararat who scored in penalty kicks
(1:0) Tigran Gspeyan
(2:1) Armen Shahgeldyan
(3:2) Haik Harutyunyan
(4:3) Ara Nigoyan
(5:4) Aramayis Tonoyan

Posted: 21 May 2011, 10:05
by silvermane
Sergey, you are indispensable when it comes to European club competitions.

May I ask what was your source? Some Armenian newspaper, I guess? I tried to find that stuff too - even wrote a script transliterating Armenian into Latin letters to make something out of their webpages - but had no luck. It may well be that this info is not mentioned on the net at all.

Posted: 21 May 2011, 19:37
by Sergey
Silvermane.
There is a Ukrainian - Russian site where you can buy various books about football and football statistics http://12igrok.com/

At the moment, freely sold handbooks on EuroCups
http://12igrok.com/goods.php?id=1152 seasons 198586 - 198990
http://12igrok.com/goods.php?id=1829 seasons 199091 - 199495
The new handbook of seasons 199596 - 199899 (printed in early May)
http://rus.12igrok.com/goods.php?id=4013 so far only on the Russian page.
In principle, the names of Armenian players I knew before, was not the correct sequence of execution for penalty kicks.
I was waiting for that write in the directory now contains data from the new book.

All books are sold in countries outside of Ukraine and Russia.
These guides are sold at 7-8 Euro per book + shipping.
Payment for books on system Western Union. Pre-write the site administration.
http://12igrok.com/news.php?action=view&cont_id=20
References in Russian, presented the minutes of all games played in European competition,
Written all the date of the stadium, the chief referee, lineups (complete spelling of the name and the names of players)
Legionnaires is written in a country, marked by team captains, written by replacement players and their time.
Delete players, after Match penalty.

The authors of reference rather famous people. They do not write is not verified information.
Will only have to look for minor details. So in this issue
The latter penalty is not scored by the Polish team 5-4 (Jojko [missed])
Missed – blow past the gate, goalposts or crossbars, penalty rescued goalkeeper?

Remain only on the basis of Russian spelling of players to recreate their writing in English
or letters of national alphabets. In this case, I took a writing Ararat players with European sites (many players have played for the national team of Armenia).
In general, in Europe they write correctly, the above five players have Ara Nigoyan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ara_Nigoyan. In Russian is written ????? ?????? (Araik Nigoyan)
In Europe, part of the spelling of the name, reduced to short Ara.

Posted: 21 May 2011, 22:32
by silvermane
Thanks for the info - these books are really cheap (65 UAH is about 4-5 EUR). Even considering that you need to buy about 10 volumes, that's still a whole lot cheaper than Ionescu.

About Jojko's (Katowice's goalkeeper) missed penalty, it was indeed missed (not saved by the opposing gk).

Jojko was selected to take the last penalty since, I believe, he had been lucky in the previous season's shootout against Aris Saloniki. His luck failed him though.

Posted: 24 May 2011, 19:18
by alex511
[quote="Sergey"]to what is written here
http://www.linguasport.com/futbol/inter ... 2_96gd.htm
Added information about the players Ararat who scored in penalty kicks
(1:0) Tigran Gspeyan
(2:1) Armen Shahgeldyan
(3:2) Haik Harutyunyan
(4:3) Ara Nigoyan
(5:4) Aramayis Tonoyan
[/quote

Fantastic! Thank you very much.