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Other Italian players in France in the interwar years:
INNOCENTI,
(Defender)
1933-34 AS Monaco (d2)
Probably Ferdinando Innocenti (III)
Born 27.03.1909 in Pistoia (PT)
1929-30 Livorno (23/0)
1930-31 Livorno (1/0)
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1935-36 Pistoiese (B) ?/?
MIGLIORETTI
Mediano
1933-34 AS Monaco (d2)
1934-35 OGC Nice (No League)
TOMASI, Ernesto
30.10.1906 in Ventimiglia
1932-33 OGC Nice 17/7
Then Roma and Juventus
ROSA, Enzo
24.04.1913 in Balzola (AL)
1932-33 Tristina
1933-34 Triestina
1934-35 Pavia
1935-36 Atalanta
1936-37 OGC Nice (d2) 1/0
RIER, Franco
15.12.1908 Rovereto (TN)
29-30 Lazio
30-31 Juventus 28/9
31-32 Servette Genève ?/?
31-32 Antibes (Dill.)
32-33 OGC Nice 11/0
33-34 OGC Nice 12/4
34-36 Brescia
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INNOCENTI,
(Defender)
1933-34 AS Monaco (d2)
Probably Ferdinando Innocenti (III)
Born 27.03.1909 in Pistoia (PT)
1929-30 Livorno (23/0)
1930-31 Livorno (1/0)
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1935-36 Pistoiese (B) ?/?
MIGLIORETTI
Mediano
1933-34 AS Monaco (d2)
1934-35 OGC Nice (No League)
TOMASI, Ernesto
30.10.1906 in Ventimiglia
1932-33 OGC Nice 17/7
Then Roma and Juventus
ROSA, Enzo
24.04.1913 in Balzola (AL)
1932-33 Tristina
1933-34 Triestina
1934-35 Pavia
1935-36 Atalanta
1936-37 OGC Nice (d2) 1/0
RIER, Franco
15.12.1908 Rovereto (TN)
29-30 Lazio
30-31 Juventus 28/9
31-32 Servette Genève ?/?
31-32 Antibes (Dill.)
32-33 OGC Nice 11/0
33-34 OGC Nice 12/4
34-36 Brescia
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Last edited by bukovi on 28 Sep 2011, 23:21, edited 1 time in total.
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tomasi ernesto
ventimiglia 30-10-1906 +1997
1926-26 ventimiglia
1927-28 savona C 11-7
1928-29 savona C 26-9
1929-30 savona C 28-13
1933-34 roma A 29-8
1934-35 roma A 30-4
1935-36 roma A 27-3
1936-37 roma A 20-1
1937-38 juventus A 30-3
1938-39 juventus A 26-3
1939-40 juventus A 15-5
1940-41 savona B 32-10
1941-42 savona B 27-5
1942-43 savona B 11-1
1945-46 vogherese C
1946-47 sanremese C
rier francesco III
rovereto 2-12-1908
1926-27 rovereto C
1927-28 modena A 19-16
1928-29 lazio A 13-2
1929-30 lazio A 16-6
1930-31 juventus A 28-2
1934-35 brescia A 27-7
1935-36 brescia A 20-2
1936-37 palermo B 24-2
1937-38 palermo B 11-2
1938-39 palermo B 21-3
1939-40 rovereto c
innocenti giordano III
1901
1923-31 livorno 137-0
rosa carlo
thiene 20-1-1909
1932-33 triestina A 20-9
1933-34 triestina A 11-1
1934-35 genoa B 4-0
ventimiglia 30-10-1906 +1997
1926-26 ventimiglia
1927-28 savona C 11-7
1928-29 savona C 26-9
1929-30 savona C 28-13
1933-34 roma A 29-8
1934-35 roma A 30-4
1935-36 roma A 27-3
1936-37 roma A 20-1
1937-38 juventus A 30-3
1938-39 juventus A 26-3
1939-40 juventus A 15-5
1940-41 savona B 32-10
1941-42 savona B 27-5
1942-43 savona B 11-1
1945-46 vogherese C
1946-47 sanremese C
rier francesco III
rovereto 2-12-1908
1926-27 rovereto C
1927-28 modena A 19-16
1928-29 lazio A 13-2
1929-30 lazio A 16-6
1930-31 juventus A 28-2
1934-35 brescia A 27-7
1935-36 brescia A 20-2
1936-37 palermo B 24-2
1937-38 palermo B 11-2
1938-39 palermo B 21-3
1939-40 rovereto c
innocenti giordano III
1901
1923-31 livorno 137-0
rosa carlo
thiene 20-1-1909
1932-33 triestina A 20-9
1933-34 triestina A 11-1
1934-35 genoa B 4-0
Last edited by Fabrizio on 28 Sep 2011, 23:21, edited 1 time in total.
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I come back to this subject as I just created the entry for [url="http://www.playerhistory.com/Default.aspx?page=player_details&playerID=104896"]Ernesto TOMASI[/url]
An increadible and very long career spent on both sides of the Riviera.
Some doubts remain however about his club (s) in 1945-46
In its official site US Sanremese writes that he was player-manager there in 1945-46 http://www.sanremesecalcio.it/modules.p ... age&pid=17.
What about him at Vogherese that season, then?
He played the first part of the 1946-47 with AS Cannes (French division 1) scoring two goals.
Was it the effective end of his playing days at the age of 41?
(I continue in Italian)
Sembra che Tomasi avesse portato con se tre italiani che giocano effettivamente con il Cannes (1946-47) in Serie A francese ma che non riesco a ritrovare nelle mie statistiche italiane:
[url="http://www.playerhistory.com/Default.aspx?page=player_details&playerID=100409"]Antonio BEGLIA[/url] (o BEGLIO?) attacante (già creato su PH)
CINQUINI (attacante) segna anche 1 gol
MANZONE (interno) (non ancora inserito nella banca dati).
Las stessa stagione 1946-47 sono sette gli italiani dell' OGC Nice (in B)
[url="http://www.playerhistory.com/Default.aspx?page=player_details&playerID=105114"]BOBBIO Carlo[/url] (difensore) 14.09.1920 in ?
[url="http://www.playerhistory.com/Default.aspx?page=player_details&playerID=105115"]BRAVI, Paolo[/url] (attacante) manca la data di nascita
[url="http://www.playerhistory.com/Default.aspx?page=player_details&playerID=105111"]CARASSO, Walter[/url](Interno/Mediano)
[url="http://www.playerhistory.com/Default.aspx?page=player_details&playerID=105116"]DONNA, Giovanni[/url] (mediano) ex Pro Vercelli manca la data di nascita
[url="http://www.playerhistory.com/Default.aspx?page=player_details&playerID=105110"]GERIA, Consolato[/url] (che stranno nome!) portiere manca la data di nascita
GUERRA, ??? (difensore)
SELLA, ??? (attacante)
Ed all'Antibes terza squadra della Costa Azzurra
[url="http://www.playerhistory.com/Default.aspx?page=player_details&playerID=105117"]MARCHIARO, Renato[/url] (ex attacante della Juve, del Liguria e del Venezia) 16.02.191919 a Brà
RASTELLI, ??? centrocampista
Se potete aiutare sulla loro cariera ci saremmo grati
Vi ringrazio in anticipo per ogni aiuto.
An increadible and very long career spent on both sides of the Riviera.
Some doubts remain however about his club (s) in 1945-46
In its official site US Sanremese writes that he was player-manager there in 1945-46 http://www.sanremesecalcio.it/modules.p ... age&pid=17.
What about him at Vogherese that season, then?
He played the first part of the 1946-47 with AS Cannes (French division 1) scoring two goals.
Was it the effective end of his playing days at the age of 41?
(I continue in Italian)
Sembra che Tomasi avesse portato con se tre italiani che giocano effettivamente con il Cannes (1946-47) in Serie A francese ma che non riesco a ritrovare nelle mie statistiche italiane:
[url="http://www.playerhistory.com/Default.aspx?page=player_details&playerID=100409"]Antonio BEGLIA[/url] (o BEGLIO?) attacante (già creato su PH)
CINQUINI (attacante) segna anche 1 gol
MANZONE (interno) (non ancora inserito nella banca dati).
Las stessa stagione 1946-47 sono sette gli italiani dell' OGC Nice (in B)
[url="http://www.playerhistory.com/Default.aspx?page=player_details&playerID=105114"]BOBBIO Carlo[/url] (difensore) 14.09.1920 in ?
[url="http://www.playerhistory.com/Default.aspx?page=player_details&playerID=105115"]BRAVI, Paolo[/url] (attacante) manca la data di nascita
[url="http://www.playerhistory.com/Default.aspx?page=player_details&playerID=105111"]CARASSO, Walter[/url](Interno/Mediano)
[url="http://www.playerhistory.com/Default.aspx?page=player_details&playerID=105116"]DONNA, Giovanni[/url] (mediano) ex Pro Vercelli manca la data di nascita
[url="http://www.playerhistory.com/Default.aspx?page=player_details&playerID=105110"]GERIA, Consolato[/url] (che stranno nome!) portiere manca la data di nascita
GUERRA, ??? (difensore)
SELLA, ??? (attacante)
Ed all'Antibes terza squadra della Costa Azzurra
[url="http://www.playerhistory.com/Default.aspx?page=player_details&playerID=105117"]MARCHIARO, Renato[/url] (ex attacante della Juve, del Liguria e del Venezia) 16.02.191919 a Brà
RASTELLI, ??? centrocampista
Se potete aiutare sulla loro cariera ci saremmo grati
Vi ringrazio in anticipo per ogni aiuto.
Last edited by bukovi on 28 Sep 2011, 23:22, edited 1 time in total.
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Marchiaro Renato
1937-38 Juventus A 0/0
1938-39 Juventus A 1-0
1939-40 Juventus A 0-0
1940-41 Lanerossi Schio C -/-
1941-42 Lanerossi Schio C -/-
1942-43 Genoa A 7-0
1949-50 Biellese C 20-5
Donna Giovanni ex Pro Vercelli is 10-9-1909 born.
To old?
1937-38 Juventus A 0/0
1938-39 Juventus A 1-0
1939-40 Juventus A 0-0
1940-41 Lanerossi Schio C -/-
1941-42 Lanerossi Schio C -/-
1942-43 Genoa A 7-0
1949-50 Biellese C 20-5
Donna Giovanni ex Pro Vercelli is 10-9-1909 born.
To old?
Last edited by Fabrizio on 28 Sep 2011, 23:23, edited 1 time in total.
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Also:Donna Giovanni
Vercelli 10-9-1909
+2-10-1986
1927-28 Cossato -/-
1928-29 Tollegno -/3
1930-31 Arona -/-
1931-32 Biellese C 2-0
1936-37 Pro Vercelli B 0/0
1938-39 Pro Vercelli B 0/0 (other source:1/0)
1939-40 Juventus Domo C -/-
1940-41 Juventus Domo C -/-
That's all what i found!!!ciao
Vercelli 10-9-1909
+2-10-1986
1927-28 Cossato -/-
1928-29 Tollegno -/3
1930-31 Arona -/-
1931-32 Biellese C 2-0
1936-37 Pro Vercelli B 0/0
1938-39 Pro Vercelli B 0/0 (other source:1/0)
1939-40 Juventus Domo C -/-
1940-41 Juventus Domo C -/-
That's all what i found!!!ciao
Last edited by Fabrizio on 28 Sep 2011, 23:23, edited 1 time in total.
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