José BILBAO

[bukovi]

A Spanish Striker José (or Josep) BILBAO signed in the summer 1946 for Girondins Bordeaux and stayed in French professional football only one season.
http://www.playerhistory.com/Default.as ... erID=88275
He was born around 1923
French paper writes that he arrived from... Coventry.
I didn't find him there or in the Spanish league.

Can someone help on him?

Thanks in advance

[jeroen]

He played in the unofficial 1945-46 season for Coventry: 5 matches 1 goal ,Left Wing


Could it be José Luis Bilbao Menchaca? born in Bilbao 8-12-1921.

He played in the Spanish first division for Bilbao, just like Emilio Aldecoa Gomez, who played for Coventry at the same time

1944-45 Ath. Club Bilbao 15-5
1945-46 Ath. Club Bilbao 3-1
1946-47 Ath. Club Bilbao 3-2
1947-48 Ath. Club Bilbao 8-1
1948-49 Ath. Club Bilbao 9-2
1949-50 Ath. Club Bilbao 7-2
1950-51 Ath. Club Bilbao 1-0
1951-52 Real S. de Gijon 15-0
1952-53 Real S. de Gijon 1-0

[bukovi]

Yes, it could definitely be him....

Do you add his Coventry stats or do you want me to do it?

[jeroen]

I'll add Coventry. The war seasons aren't defined, but 45-46 is relatively simple in this case: Football League South (level 1)

[djizmah]

I don´t think he was called "Josep" as he was basque and "Josep" is a name from Catalonia.

Also added some missing seasons.

Can also give me the english stats of Aldecoa at Wolverhampton and Coventry?

Emilio Aldekoa Gómez
30/11/1922
Zorrotza (Spain)
Died 04/09/1999

1 A-International

1943-44 Wolverhampton
1944-45 Wolverhampton
1945-46 Coventry 30/6?
1946-47 Coventry 29/0?
1947-48 Athletic 24/3
1948-49 Athletic 21/6
1949-50 Valladolid 20/4
1950-51 Valladolid 29/6
1951-52 Barcelona 19/2
1952-53 Barcelona 4/0
1953-54 Sporting de Gijón
1954-55 Gerona

[jeroen]

Aldecoa:

English Electric
1943 Wolverhampton Wanderers Football League North (First Competition) 15-8
1943-44 Wolverhampton Wanderers Football League North (Second Competition) 15-3
1944 Wolverhampton Wanderers Football League North (First Competition) 8-2
1944-45 Wolverhampton Wanderers Football League North (Second Competition) 6-2 + 2-0 in League Cup North
1945-46 Coventry City 30-6

This is all unofficial. The Wolverhampton seasons are undefined, you can write the stats in the notes. 1945-46 can be added we need this season in the database because the FA Cup was official this season.

1946-47 Coventry City 29-0 this is a normal season

[bukovi]

Djizmah, you are probably right his first name is José and not Josep
Josep was written in Barreaud (Dictionnaire des footballeurs étrangers), p. 145

There are some other Spanish players in the French League 1946-47 like
José Ortiz (Le Havre)
http://www.playerhistory.com/Default.as ... erID=88374 who played only that season in Division 1. He may be, as his teammate Garcia an immigrant who came during the war (or even earlier)

[jeroen]

I don´t think he was called "Josep" as he was basque and "Josep" is a name from Catalonia.

Also added some missing seasons.

Can also give me the english stats of Aldecoa at Wolverhampton and Coventry?

Emilio Aldekoa Gómez
30/11/1922
Zorrotza (Spain)
Died 04/09/1999

1 A-International

1943-44 Wolverhampton
1944-45 Wolverhampton
1945-46 Coventry 30/6?
1946-47 Coventry 29/0?
1947-48 Athletic 24/3
1948-49 Athletic 21/6
1949-50 Valladolid 20/4
1950-51 Valladolid 29/6
1951-52 Barcelona 19/2
1952-53 Barcelona 4/0
1953-54 Sporting de Gijón
1954-55 Gerona

Djizmah: The seasons you added for José Bilbao:

Does this mean the lfp site is wrong?

they say 1939-41 Zaragoza was Victor Bilbao Iturbe born 26-2-1913
and 1941-43 was José Bilbao Echevarry born 30-10-1919

[djizmah]

Ok, in that case I was wrong, I´ll delete the seasons I added, my info was mixing players then.
Thanks Jeroen

[jeroen]

When I look at the line-ups of the matches played by Bilbao E I see 3 appearances in 1941-42 as a left winger.( this seems to be the preferred position by Bilbao M.) The others are all as Rightwinger or midfielder maybe even Central defender (Sevilla) In those days players were often much more versatile than they are now. So it's possible that http://www.lfp.es is right. I don't know how accurate the records of the Spanish FA are. It would be interesting to compair lfp stats with stats from a good clubsource, just to check how accurate they really are.